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Seraph IX Basarab
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Posted - 2012.09.24 19:09:00 -
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Annubis Lorn wrote:Ok... I'm sure I'm not the only one that is just sick to death of these ppl.
CCP... You are always talking about fixing and balancing things... well here's an idea for you to kick around...
Personally, i feel like there should be a way to scan down cloaked ships. Require maxed out scanning skills with a full rack of scanning implants and hardwires...Make it take some time, not an instant lock.
Don't make it easy or cheap to do, but make it possible.
It's one thing when you fly around in cloaked ships from system to system, but to park your ship in an enemy system and go AFK isn't combat, it's not gameplay, it's childish and stupid, and should really be changed.
Personally i see it as a type of exploit, and it is a completely unbalanced tactic.
Of course this thread is going to be filled to max capacity with whiners and crybabys that live for nothing more than to irritate people and basically just be smarta****, but personally i feel like there should be SOME kind of an option to make an offensive move towards an AFK cloaker.
Here's a idea.... Take the auto repeat off of the cloaks... Give them a 15 min cycle time that has to be reset.
Another idea...... Make cloaks eat cap, make a cap stable cloaked ship impossible.
Spoken like a true victim of HED-GP Bomber's Bar Operations. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Vengance Inc.
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Posted - 2012.09.25 05:40:00 -
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Annubis Lorn wrote:ok, honestly.... AFK cloakers are chicken ***** that dont have the backbone to do any proper PvP, and im gonna go out on a limb and say that the responders to this post are exactly the pilots im refering to. And no..... havnt been a victim in HED to that bunch of FAIL ass bombers that couldnt hit a titan hung up in an asteroid belt.
The only ones that need to grow a set are the little girls that sit in a SS cloaked for hours on end because they cant fit a ship that may actually kill someone. You guys dont want it fixed because then you would have no reason to play EVE since you cant really kill anyone.
Now you need a "backbone" to play a video game? If how someone plays "turnetspeyships" is the measuring stick by which you judge a person's character, afk cloaking is the least of your problems. Bombers trade all of their tank for gank (otherwise they're doing it wrong.) If bombers are successful it is only through teamwork. You have zero tank to help you survive. Faulting a cov ops ship for cloaking is like whining on forums about apocs armor tanking. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Vengance Inc.
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Posted - 2012.09.26 18:41:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:You know the easiest solution to this, afk anything and possibly even bots(for a bit) would be to just have an afk timer like most other games.
No action in say 15 minutes(no typing no movement no interaction) and suddenly "You have been disconnected"
Solves so many issues in the game
And it will have 0 zero effect on anyone actually playing
Why hasn't this been done?
Cause eve is a methodical game, not counter strike. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Vengance Inc.
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Posted - 2012.09.27 01:36:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:[quote=NEONOVUS] [quote=Seraph IX Basarab]Cause eve is a methodical game, not counter strike. Which has rules against being afk and reaping rewards. Excepting autopilot & mining
You make any money afk cloaking? No? Guess your point is irrelevant then. |
Seraph IX Basarab
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Posted - 2012.09.27 03:49:00 -
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There is no missed point. Your argument is crap. Eve is all about risk. Part of that risk is that there may be someone hunting you. Deal with it or go sit in high sec. |
Seraph IX Basarab
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Posted - 2012.09.27 23:08:00 -
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Zyella Stormborn wrote:The real problem here is not that you are upset they are cloaked and afk. You are upset that they are preventing YOU from mining and afk, or ratting blind.
/thread |
Seraph IX Basarab
Vengance Inc.
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:25:00 -
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If the cloaker is AFK, he cannot harm you. If he can harm you, he is not AFK. Deal with it. HTFU |
Seraph IX Basarab
Vengance Inc.
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:59:00 -
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Raiko Osburn wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
If their sole intention is to stay cloaked, either move to a new system yourself or don't worry about them. You can counter them by not letting them impact your game play. In your scenario, it is your own avoidance of action that grants the cloaker power.
And we have suggested ways to combat them, be vigilent and team up. You have yet to say why this isn't a counter, but rather seem to ignore thus issue.
Yes, few pilots can do it. But should all system residents move just because there is one hotdropper afk and will be back in hour, two or ten? If cloaky is in the system. You can get defense fleet ready and wait till he strikes or leave. You can plan some reaction. But if he is in the system for 10 hours, who will keep defense fleet up for so long? And who will force players to stay in fleet with pvp ships ready for 10 hours? You have to be playing to be ready to counter afk cloaky while afk cloaky is ... well, afk. Without chance to find him or without knowing if he is afk or not, this is onesided benefit. On defenders side it is about constant risk, while on attackers side its about single moment of risk.
Do you realize how sad this crap sounds? Ever hear of asymmetric warfare? There are advantages and disadvantages to it. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Vengance Inc.
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:46:00 -
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I think the major issue, that our RZR friend here has brought to my attention, is the difference in mindset between people here. Within RZR you have a very 'orthodox' concept of warfare based on standard fit ships that stand there and trade blows with an enemy fleet. This is specifically how a major player in the 0.0 game holds and maintains territory. You cannot win a war alone through irregular tactics. The same can be said about the OP who is a member of Legio, a southern coalition member. Their idea of warfare is one where you see the enemy, and he sees you, and you trade shots. Sort of a "ok we meet on the battlefield for set piece battles and have it out."
Along with this mindset, you have the more pve oriented members who just want to make their isk as risk free as possible.
Myself and a few others in Eve, like the option to be able to carry out and maintain clandestine operations and insurgent type tactics. We won't attack you on the battlefield, we'll hit you when you try to get there or come home. Because we are small, we have to use wit and mobility to cause damage. We don't have the luxury of having the major fleets, or the saftey of our local pos to run and hide to.
In this case the question becomes, which sort of game do we want Eve to be? One where only one of these play styles is possible, or one where we have the option to do both? I think once we all look at this matter objectivly and know that we all want MORE options of how to play this game, not less, we can all agree that said OP and those who follow his mindset, need to get over it and just deal with it. Things are going to happen to you in Eve which you will not like. Play to your strengths, as I play to my own. You can't do everything, just do what you can do well.
I'll continue to be the haiduc in the mountains, the chetnik in the forest, the VC in the tunnels, the U boat under your ship. Those who don't adapt, and realize that more options for the game is good even if it threatens them, can play "EvE Online: Forums" and be a "winner" there. |
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